Scripting Gameplay Elements

Jun 15, 2020
Scripting Gameplay Elements
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    Scripting Objective Objects: Flag, Ball and Skull(top)



    You can enter scripts into the Ball [only] and Flag [only] objects, and set some objects and players as objective spawns or returns.


    Forgeball General Information
    • Disabling weapon pickup with traits now disables both Flag and Ball pickup, but doesn’t make players drop the ball
    • Players don’t drop the ball when interacting with objects like switches
    • The ball has 16,960 health = 100% which only seems affected by Damage Ratio scripts, not player damage (thanks imaproscoundrel!)
    • When a ball is not held, it receives damage from Damage Ratio and is destroyed when its health reaches zero
      • Any damage done with Damage Ratio (even 0.10) while the ball is held seems to kill the player, but the ball remains (not sure if the ball takes the damage too)
    • The scoring explosion occurs where the ball is when it's destroyed or despawned
    • Currently there is no known way to remove the ball from a player's hands other than them dropping it, scoring it, or by killing the player
    • Using a standard Ball Return object with the sportsball:include & sportsball:return labels doesn’t cause a score or any automatic action, nor does it seem to enable removing the ball with any scripting
    Forgeball Workaround Ideas
    • Use a PLANT or DELIVER navpoint to guide players to the bomb receptacle (they use spy bases with self destruct bomb receptacles in the future)
    • When the attacking player with the ball reaches the receptacle, it activates by lighting up, popping out an interface, uncovering where the bomb gets planted, etc.
    • If there's a prep time before planting the bomb there can be indicators of progress while the player waits with the ball
    • Optionally, you can not let the player leave until they drop the ball
    • When it's ready to receive the ball, use signals to tell them to drop it(Navpoints RELEASE, maybe alternated with BALL)
    • When they let go it instantly resets position (or Despawn or Damage... just spam those actions until complete)
    • An optional dummy ball can appears as if they put it there
    • There can be additional cues, like an inactive switch or interface that the player can sense they have to do something to make it active

    Forgeball Notes and Observations

    Any objects set to be ball returns are defended by the team they're assigned to & all enemies can arm + score. Anyone can score on a neutral ball return. Ball return objects won't spawn if no members of its team are there to defend it. (Some lights from a scorpion welded group did spawn without the rest of it and I collided with stuff there, so that could be checked out.) Only tested for teams 1 & 2. Guessing if more teams are allowed, then players can score on any goal that's not their own.

    There's only one ball at a time, so it's always a neutral element. If there are multiple objects set to spawn balls (add sportsball:include and sportsball:spawn to the object's Game Mode Labels), the ball spawn location will cycle thru the spawn objects starting with the oldest one (verify). Ball Spawn object Team colors change to white when the ball spawns on them, as if they become neutral.

    Kill zones are made visible (including symbols) by making them a ball return. They have a "Defend" or "Attack" waypoint. The ball resets when thrown into it (timed kill zones were used), which could be an interesting dynamic as throwing scores wouldn't work and drops in the enemy zone would cause an instant reset which usually would be a disaster. Other zones might work as well. They can be used as waypoints or interesting decorations.

    Scorpion didn't seem to work as ball return zone. Vehicles display a waypoint, and the ball spawns below the vehicle, but the boundaries don't seem to show up on the map. Vehicles do seem to act as ball spawns. They tend to carry the ball placeholder under them.

    When the Mantis is a ball spawn, it protects the ball between its feet like a male penguin. Players can't reach the ball while the Mantis squats over it. If players from opposite teams got to the Mantis at the same time, they'd have to choose between getting in the Mantis, or waiting for another player take the Mantis and either grabbing the ball as it stands up or attacking it.
    Penguin Daddy Mantis video on waypoint

    When the player picks up a weapon that's the next ball spawn, the ball placeholder spawns over the player's head and stays there if the player moves. It then keeps bouncing down to the ground (likely an example of local xbox showing gravity then resetting the position after an update from the server, after the Xbox checks in with server when collision with ground happens). Doesn't matter if the player holds the weapon-spawn or if it's swapped away into inventory. If the ball spawn is a weapon a player is holding while in a vehicle and the ball spawns, the ball placeholder spawns at the player's position and stays there (and bounces). (Verify?)

    Looks like if the placeholder is inside any return zone, it repeatedly acts as though it fills the timer then scores & explodes. It resets to the same current spawn object. Could provide for some startling amusement. Player holding weapon that's the current ball spawn while in his own return zone - waypoint video


    Skull Ball


    Skull ball seems to move slower than other objects, regardless of set Move:Offset time, and can fail to reach end destination, stopping partway there. Therefore, longer move times will probably be necessary on longer moves. Keep this in mind also if they keep getting stuck under ground in normal physics, when moving them into a position through landscapes.

    In Forge, Skull Ball successfully reverts back to original label and physics property when despawned then spawned. -HOWEVER- once physics are made normal, wherever it is at that point becomes it's new "default position", and it will respawn there instead of back at it's original spawn location. A workaround is to create a TARGET at the original spawn and just use a terminal with Message Send to trigger it to return to it's default position while building your map.



    Scripting Players(top)



    Accessing Player Channel Numbers and Game Values(top)

    The ONLY place to retrieve PLAYER CHANNEL NUMBERS & GAME VALUES is from Number Change, Score Change, or Spawn Order Change, but only if the condition defines ACTIVATOR so the option Object=ACTIVATOR appears

    Learn more and see examples here.

    Game Settings Options List(top)

    • Shield/Health Percentage
    • Shield/Health Recharge Speed
    • Shield/Health Recharge Wait Time
    • Shield/Health Vampirism
    • Damage Resistance
    • Deathless keeps players from dying but doesn't stop them from taking damage until they have no shields or health
    • Sheild HUD Visibility, Shield Effects, Damage Indicators

    Shields and Health(top)

    • The Damage Ratio script damages health not shields
    • The Damage Ratio script action does reset both the player shields and health regen wait timers (confirmed for Forge, need to confirm for Customs)
    • There doesn't seem to be a way to add shields or health back using scripting
    • There doesn't seem to be a way to keep health level using only Damage Ratio without reset the regen timers
    • To read player shields and health (also number values), use a condition that has ACTIVATOR or EXTRA mods (Number Check, Boundary Check, Interacted, Message Send, Power Set) and read the values from the Number or Game Value options of Number/Score/Spawn-Order Check

    Scripts on Players Leaving, Joining(top)

    • Player numbers are retained if you exit a match and return before it ends.
    • This can be cleaned up in the first 4sec of quitting the match, but that is hard to detect specifically.
    • First() of a player is seemingly retained if you leave and rejoin as well.
    • The second player in the mod list would be considered "first" until the original first shows back up in the mods list, at which time they appear to always win.
    • BUT if both players die and original "first" has no bodies on the map, the second player will be considered first until their bodies are cleared from the map, even if the original "first" has respawned.

    Scripts and Spartan Dead Bodies(top)

    • Conditions treat dead Spartans the same as live ones
    • Actions such as Move:Offset can use the Dead[exclude/include] filters to either target the live or dead copy of a Spartan after filtering the Spartan by using his unique label or number.
    • EXTRA will not return dead bodies, only live ones

    Traits Using Percentages(top)

    • The settings that are represented with percentages seem to be multiplied with each other when applied to players, default settings x more specific category or trait
    • Toastman found a glitch where some of the % settings were multiplied repeatedly when using Trait: Add with a repeating Timer Check condition
    • Damage % changes seem to apply to the weapon so they affect the damage done to players and objects

    Learn more about reading player info here.



    Scripting Initial & Respawn Locations(top)



    Spawn Order
    • Spawn order prioritizes the lowest spawn order first. This will even over write spawn zone influence
    • If there are no valid spawns of an order the next order is then looked for.
    • Any valid spawn is a spawn that does not have something physically blocking the spawn. This does not include line of sight
    • For a spawn to be used during a match it must be valid when the map loads. If it is blocked before the match starts then becomes unblocked it will still remain invalid
    • With scripting I have been unable to force players to spawn by changing their spawn order. Instead I would recommend changing the game label of spawns and the player to try and trigger it that way.
    • It seems when there is a lower order available even after changing the players order to the next order the game will choose the lowest still(edited)

    Spawned and Despawned List
    • Can't add scripts directly to them
    • Can't use Action Targeting on them (add a label, use Label [add])
    • Except when they're part of a group, then using Group Siblings [add] works
    • Can manipulate them some in Forge (Navpoints, Move Offset, Rotate Offset, Spawn Order Change)
    • Postition/Rotation Reset didn't work at all
    • In Customs, they can be Action Targeted enough to add to the Object Count of objects in the group. I could use Spawn Order Change to change one to Order 64 and then the Object Count got lower by one since I added Order [exclude] 64. But since Navpoints didn't work on them, I couldn't tell if Move or Rotate worked.
    • Should try having something visible Move-Target one of them to see if they're there and movin




    Scripting Inventory Objects: Weapons, Grenades(top)



    When you pick up a weapon, just the weapon becomes part of the player inventory (it gets detached from a group). This is why "Inventory" could be a potential column for the Scripting Options Sheet. It would include items that disappear and reappear when used by the player, but the objects are different representations (part of the player animations instead of free objects). For weapons, the game doesn't erase its internal object and scripts still apply to it unless another copy gets respawned & then the new one inherits the scripts. The (Destroyed) condition doesn't fire when the player picks it up, though it does trigger if all its ammo gets picked up.

    Grenades, on the other hand, do immediately trigger (Destroyed). The programming is a bit different possibly due to player inventories being able to have multiple grenades of the same type. It's much simpler to represent grenade inventory with an integer variable for each type of grenade rather than have a container that holds multiple grenade objects.


    Despawning Held Weapons(top)

    The last update disabled despawning weapons held by players, so here's a workaround:

    Spawn 2 items, preferably invisible/collisionless. Weld them together.
    Select the 2 items you just welded and the weapon you wish to force-despawn. Tap up on the D-pad (or G on PC). This adds the weapon to the welded group. Make sure one of the 2 original welded items is set as the parent.

    When a player is holding the weapon, you can remove it by despawning the parent object.


    Notes, Observations, Suggestions(top)

    Vehicles or turrets might not qualify as "inventory" items since they can't disappear into the player inventory. Maybe those plus inventory items would qualify as "Possessions" or something. Not sure what would happen to a turret that's in a welded group that gets picked up. For fixed turrets, there's the stand and the weapon so it's much like it's already a weapon welded to a stand object. Would objects welded to one would be stuck to the stand? Does a detached turret act just like a normal weapon except we can't swap it into our inventories?

    Weapons that are welded to a group (not the parent) can be picked up and moved around by the player. When dropped, they are added back to the group at the location where dropped. (Do we need to verify this?)
    Inventory "Keys"

    It might be possible to use individual weapons as some kind of "key" that can be added to a player's inventory and carried around and used to unlock something.

    Weapons that instantly deal large damage could be used on an object with big health and (Health) scripts that can tell the difference between large and small damage.

    A Gungoose can be driven right up against a destructible and fired to damage both the goose and destructible at the same time.




    Scripting FX(top)



    To control when an FX appears, you can use the following method:

    Use Script 1 to activate the FX when you want it to show up
    Code:
    Script 1: Condition: Message {activate}
    A1: Spawn ON
    A2: Number Change: Object (THIS) Set Constant 1
    Use Script 2 to make sure the FX shows up only when you activate it with Script 1
    Code:
    Script 2: Condition: Spawned
    A1: Despawn (THIS, Number [exclude] 1)
    A2: Number Change: Object (THIS) Set Constant 0
    A3: Wait {2.00}
    A4: Despawn (THIS)



    Powerups(top)



    All the Powerups are scriptable using Interacted or Despawned, not just the ones that say "Scriptable". The regular ones have the default Powerup effects, but the "Scriptable" ones don't. You can stop the Powerup pickup animation by using the Despawn Action with the Interacted Condition. This will cancel the animation of the player putting it to his/her chest. Add a Wait action to delay cancelling the animation.



    Scripting and Match Rounds Gotchas and Fixes(top)




    Starting in round two, some Conditions will not work or will not work correctly at the beginning of rounds. The reason seems to be that objects don't truly respawn once a game has loaded. For example, after a match starts the When Spawned Condition doesn't work correctly at the beginning of successive rounds. And, when using the trick below to get objects to despawn after a round ends, the object remains despawned after the next round starts.

    A workaround for scripts that won't work at Round Event:End that I found is to use an Action that sends a message, then trigger your script when that message is received. This seems to bypass the interruption that Round End causes to scripts. It works for information scripts, like number changes and spawn/despawn, but has not been tested on move scripts yet.

    Round and Condition interrupt must be off on both the message send and the script receiving it, and since objects don't truly respawn on rounds, if you use this trick to despawn an object at the end of a round it won't be there on the next round. You can get it to spawn in by using the Round Event:Start Condition.

    Switching to Round Event:Start is another way to get around the Spawned Condition weirdness on rounds. But there is a weird bug with Global numbers when working on Static Weapons where they might not work. The fix for this is to turn Force Dirty ON, even if they've already been dirtied by a number change. Though they don't truly respawn on rounds it's possible objects "load" twice during the transition for rounds, and this is why Force Dirty must be on. For some reason, this doesn't happen with object numbers. It hasn't been tested with Team numbers.

    Round weirdness doesn't just affect our scripts. When using the ball spawn object, the sportsball spawns in fine first round, but in successive rounds can glitch, repeating the ball incoming over and over. During testing to see if we could find a workaround, Yumudas noticed that it only happens if the ball is on the field when round ends. Making sure the sportsball is destroyed or despawned before the round ends prevents this from happening every time.
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