Sewers

Discussion in 'WIP - Works In Progress' started by WAR, Aug 27, 2012.

  1. Skyward Shoe

    Skyward Shoe BTB Legend
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    I have really enjoyed the games we have played here. As a human it is great to have to watch the surface of water for the tell tale ripple of an approaching zombie, and as a zomb it is equally enjoyable to jump out and get an unsuspecting spartan from behind. You've done a good job with this one, I need to play the new version as well to see how that new hallway in version 2 works. In V1 that neglected hallway was my favorite holdout point.

    Edit: Wow, you're sketches are much cleaner than mine. I end to write in such a way that only I can read it, and even then for only as long as I remember what it said in the first place. Straight lines, pfft.
     
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  2. theSpinCycle

    theSpinCycle Halo Reach Era
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    For the framerate, maybe move the different waterways out of alignment. (the bottom section of the map). I'm thinking shift the waterway adjacent the GL to the left, move the 2nd holdout zone to where the frags are now, moving the frags closer to the zombie initials (for balance). But, of course, it's your map, Warholic :p Another area with long LoS of note is the Human spawn / DMR spawn-> bottom of pillar room LoS. Even if it doesn't have framerate, being cross-map killed by humans is no fun. :(


    Also, I would like a picture of how visible the zombies are when they're underneath the water. And the zombies' point of view from under the water. I don't know because I haven't played the map..

    EDIT: I'd like to get on this sometime. Invite me :p
     
  3. Berb

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    This looks really awesome, I can't wait to get a game on this sometime soon.
     
  4. WAR

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    @Jack - I wish I could do more to flesh this out visually, but I'm currently in a FR drop bind

    @Shoe - Agreed, the ripples are of essential use, without them I would have to resort to radar. This is also why zombies can't sprint, because it removes that effect. The coolest thing about v2 is really the updated gametype and use of Safe Haven zones underwater (heavily inspired by H4's "trait zones"). Surprised that the Southern hall was your favorite, you might have been the only one:p

    @ Spin - Just put in a spoiler and threw in a pic underwater for ya. Thanks for the adjustment recommendations; I was thinking of moving them around but I have Forgeworld's kill boundaries (inches away from both East & West) to consider. I'll try and work it out.
     
  5. purely fat

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    Warholic you need to add me. This actually seems pretty unique compared to a lot of straight forward infection map.
     
  6. theSpinCycle

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    Thanks, man :p Kill boundaries suck... by the way, in what part of FW did you put this map? I'm guessing by the coastline or the lagoon?
     
  7. Robster95

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    WOW!!!!!! this looks FANTASTIC!!! i cant wait for this to come out please PM me when its released, whats this for slayer, infection etc?? but looks brilliant ive been waiting for a decent sewer map to come out :p
     
  8. WAR

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    Thinking this design might block the line of sight creating the FR issues. I'll have to see because the further I build south, it starts to disco...FML.
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    @Tyrant - Hell yeah, its as though you were already on my FL. We keep on running customs together...

    @Spin - It was actually forged outside of the map in a place I like to call "zora's domain". You get about 4 - 5 units of habitable depth there.
     
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  9. Yellow Sausage

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    I love your sketchs, so cleeeean

    I'd be up for testing. Wanna try this out cause it looks spooky

    and awesome.
     
  10. xzamplez

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    This is like the only infection map that impresses me. Others are fun, but I never thought I'd call an infection map "solid".

    I think it might balance the game more if humans ran faster than zombies. If you made that change, constant movement would be more effective than hiding in a corner, which seemed to be a prevalent problem. It would also require zombies to work together and cut off the humans. I would at least try it, it may be an improvement.

    I'm still not impressed by your drawing. Your rock caves look like sickle cells.
     
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  11. theSpinCycle

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    @xzamplez Now that's an interesting idea. I don't think that's been used very often, if at all.. :)

    @yellow That looks like a haiku....

    And as for your new drawing, warholic, who says that the holdout point needs to be directly behind the small circular incline? If you shift it over a bit, you can cut down the size of the map by a couple units. IDK how severe your problem is, but that might help..
     
  12. DEADGAMER

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    I really like the aesthetics. Concept seems kinda cliche, but this is really good from what I can tell. You pulled it off pretty well.
     
  13. xzamplez

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    Sorry, what? If you mean a sewer location.. Yes, it's been done, but none of the other maps revolve around the zombies being underwater to sneak up on the humans.
     
  14. theSpinCycle

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    This is a completely unique combination, as far as I've seen.
     
  15. WAR

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    I'm going to try out your speed settings. I currently have humans at 110% and zombies at 120%, so I think it won't completely disrupt anything. I'm curious to see how it plays out.
     
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  16. pyro

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    Having zombies slower than humans is pretty tricky. Zombies typically have their speed as an advantage and without that the game becomes quite boring for them. Being slow and weaker with only a melee weapon is not fun.
     
  17. xzamplez

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    Yeah, but the way the settings are, the zombies will eventually get you no matter what you do. If humans were faster, zombies would have to be more strategic. I doubt it would be boring for zombies, it's simply a matter of predicting a human's movement, and cutting them off.
     
  18. theSpinCycle

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    Well, pyro has a point. I doubt it's easy to frontally attack and infect a human - the human coud just keep backing off.. that is, if the starting weapon's a shotgun. I haven't looked at the gametype yet, so IDK what the deal is with that.
     
  19. xzamplez

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    Yes they can, which is why the zombies need to be smart and cutoff the humans.
     

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