HIGH CITADEL

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Map Description

  1. no god anywhere
    High Citadel
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    Version 1.2 - Changed Weapons

    A nearly perfect remake of the classic halo 3 map Citadel. Built with replication in mind, this map holds onto every shape aspect of the original with a golden new color scheme.

    If you find anything wrong with the map, please drop a comment so it can be updated. If you have enjoyed my work, please take some time to leave a rating and comment. I worked extremely hard on this map to bring you an even better experience than
    Contract.

    Thanks for looking,

    XGOD

    Weapons and Powerups:
    Overshield: 3 min

    3 Min Respawn - 30 Sec despawn
    -2 Sniper
    -2 shotgun

    30 Sec Respawn - 30 Sec Despawn
    -2 BR
    -2 Carbine
    -2 Storm Rifle
    -2 Plasma Pistol
    -1 Needler

Recent Reviews

  1. beautiful setting, straightforward and fun, you are very good
  2. Accurate and beautiful remake, though I don't know why you would choose to remake the worst on-disc Halo 3 map. The fact is the map does play just like epitaph, which means you did do a good job of remaking it. Though that is also the problem because epitaph plays like garbage. Accurate remake, but of a bad map.
  3. NEKTryhard NEKTryhard
    8/5,
    I'm bumping this up a star because the framerate issues are on my end and doesn't affect everyone. That being said this is a remake and while it is stunning visually, remakes are abundant and so I give it 4 Stars. The nostalgia is real though, and you did a great job recreating one of my favorite H3 DLC maps. Kudos.
  4. AnonFriction AnonFriction
    10/5,
    Another really great looking map! Plays well even with the new mechanics, and as usual plays well for Team Snipers which I love :P I couldn't find any issues with Frame Rate so maybe people with large parties are having issues?

Discussion

  1. XBL Armory

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    I'll download this and take a look at it; I'm working on an epitaph remake and I may incorporate some of your aesthetics.
     
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    Epitaph huh? Im excited. Yeah those pillar support things were awesome pieces for this build, you should try them.
     
  3. D4rkDeath

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    I am so excited to try this!!! Also, maybe you have tried this, but if you have a lot of pieces bunched and you can turn off the light bake, that can fix a lot of performance issues. Mess around with it, if there is a lot of light in that area, there is no need for the bake anyway. Been a great fix for me a few times!
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    All of your pics make it difficult to see that it was made in forge!
     
  4. WARHOLIC

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    Just took a look at this in forge and have to commend you for the creative piece usage while preserving original scale. I think this is one of the best Citadel remake's I've seen, which was expected after we've seen what you did with the 'Construct' remake. I noticed a ton of frame rate issues while on the platform above snipe ramp, so hopefully you can eliminate some of the lights in areas to help compensate. The lightmap is at 128% but I don't think that impedes anything visually at this time. I haven't played on this yet but the scale feels like a solid 2v2 space. So in that regard, I would take a second look at your weapon set as there is a bit too much going on. My thoughts: eliminate both overshields, their proximity is way too close to each other, especially with the rockets in mid.
     
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  5. Preacher001

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    Wow, that's just wow.
     
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  6. InvokingTexan

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    Indeed. The map is a truly remarkable recreation. It would've been wise if the name "Zitadelle" was adopted instead of "High Citadel" for reasons of semantics. But with any piece of work coming from NGA, can I possibly expect anything less than perfection?
     
  7. Preacher001

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    I'm having a hell of a time remaking my own map and here is this beautiful remake of an original. Is it ok if I cry in my pillow now?
     
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    All lighting pieces are unbaked. The frame-rate issue is being caused by the lights being dynamic. If i turn them all off i start getting the lighting glitch contract had as well so i went ahead and released it so i could get to bed. I will readvise all the lighting until i get something that works. I have already deleted over 50 lighting objects before releasing it. You guys should of seen it before. It was on :hot:

    I actually NEED the lighting though, as any space without one is a space that doesnt seem to exist because its so dark.

    After making contract with nothing but primitives, i really went out of my way to use some abstract pieces this time around. Thankfully a lot of the pieces ended up being the right sizes. The lightmap has only darkened a handful of pieces that i can even notice so i didn't think unbaking 60-90 objects would be any more visually striking than it already appears so i left it. I don't believe it has anything to do with the frame-rate either.

    I agree it does seem like the weapon set is over-bloated. I added them how it was on halo 3 for the first version. The overshields were that way on halo 3 and was one of the coolest things about it, so i cant help wanting to leave two on the map. I will reassess the weapons and everything though in time, as this is a different game and the overshields are stronger now.

    Hey i like my name choice! Makes it feel kind of royal in a way, at least to me. This is far from perfection i assure you, as a map with frame-rate issues might as well not be one at all.
    In in the same boat to be honest. I made an original but i don't know how to make it structurally themed so i gave up and just remade citadel. Trust me, remakes are a ton easier...

    Thank you for the compliments and how well received this map has been everyone. I truly am thankful you guys like it. Cheers and fries? :beer: :fries:
     
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  9. Goat

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    The piece usage and aesthetics are phenomenal. I had no idea we'd be able to get Forerunner aesthetics from The Ark in this game.

    It feels way too big though. Honestly wouldn't have changed the scaling of the map at all. If you are ever up to it, I would just shrink the map proportions to scale to the original. I'd also try to get some texturing on the floors. Everything else looks like it could be a dev map, but the floors take away from the visuals. It'd be perfect if you could do those things and adjust the framerate.
     
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    Thanks for the compliments. I can definitely try and get some floor textures going in some areas but for the flag areas, they are built differently to allow the windows to have full scenery view with as little blocks sticking out as possible so I don't want to make it look different on each side. Btw I think the floors look good. Other than textures, what else do you think I could do?

    #Tradesecrets - the scaling of both contract and citadel are based off of walking time. That is to say how long it takes to walk from one point to another. So it's pretty much 1:1 with sprint unaccounted for.

    Besides, I think we both know changing the size of the map is a complete rebuild so I'm not going to bother with that one.

    Thanks for the feedback goat.
     
  11. LOLOexists

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    This map is incredible. I love the detail! I have only one issue. When I try to play FFA slayer with my buddies, we can't respawn at all after we die. Once the respawn timer goes to zero nothing happens and we stay dead forever :(
     
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    Dead . . . foreverrrrr . . . .
     
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  13. no god anywhere

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    I set all spawns to attacker and defender. I did this as a quick fix to flag and planned on adding respawn zones later. I assumed FFA would use those spawns but I guess not. I'll fix this immediately when I can forge again. Sorry about that.

    If you want, you can go into forge and each team set of spawns are still grouped i believe. Just select the two groups, change the team to none, and save your own copy. Keep mine bookmarked so it can auto update when I make changes or if you want to play teamed.
     
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  15. WARHOLIC

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    Looks like you removed rockets top mid with that last update but kept 2 overshields at 3 mins, is that correct?
     
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    Sorry i forgot rockets in the notes. Rockets are the same. Overshields are now on opposite sides of the map from eachother at 3 min respawns.
     
  17. WARHOLIC

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    Can you tell me why you would like to have that many powerups and power weapons close together? What is your goal with this map and do you realize how powerful these items are in H5 compared to H3?
     
  18. D4rkDeath

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    I will be playing this map with my customs group tonight, I'll gather feedback and submit a review.
     
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    My goal is for it to be a remake in the end. The weapons and powerups are an important part of that. I dont necessarily see them as overpowered as you seem to but the map has just been released and barely playtested if at all.

    There is plenty time for feedback, just as people wanted a railgun AND sword on contract while i consider both way too OP even alone.
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    Thank you. Drop me an invite if im still on. Im down to join. :]
     

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