Shishka's checklist for Matchmaking maps

[Draw the Line]

I just found this over at Bungie.net....straight from Shiska's mouth....err keyboard. He's talking about the user made content playlist.

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Originally Posted by Shishka

The playlist itself isn't happening in September (as one might imagine as it wasn't included in last Friday's info-dump).

We're hoping to be able to release the form by which users will have to vet their maps against to ensure that they'll be good for Matchmaking. Effectively what this form is is a list of "show stoppers" that, if the map matches any of these items, it will be immediately rejected. A few of these items include:

1.Using glitches (IE, glitches that allow you to ignore the map's budget)
2. Maps whose names or content are offensive (Maps with racist names, or are built into offensive images)
3. Maps that use performance-destroying features (Flame grenades, fuel rod guns, quickly-repsawning fusion cores that are being blown up constantly, for example)
4. Maps whose name or content are licensed properties (An infection map called I am Legend, or Dawn of the Dead, for example).

There are more than this. Effectively there's a section of the from that, if you can answer "Yes" to any of the questions in the section, your map is instantly rejected.

The second part is a brief questionnaire so we know what playlists the author thinks their map fits in. Note: Players who want a playlist devoted around their map are going to be disappointed. In fact, players whose maps cater to a very specific gametype may find it more difficult to get their playlist accepted than someone who makes maps for the existing playlists.

The last part is video, Halo 3 film or youtube clip or gamevee or whatever, of the map being played. At least a couple will be expected. At least two films showing full games being played, from multiple players points of view.

Screenshots will be expected as well in the Halo 3 file forum thread the map is posted too, but not required.

Like I've said before, it won't be easy, and a lot of people are going to complain, but so be it.

and some more....

Originally Posted by Shishka

The versions of the MLG maps in Matchmaking do not use budget exploits.

To answer some of the other questions in this thread:

We will expect people to post publish their maps to the Files forums here on Bungie.net. We're not going to explore other websites to hunt down map variants, nor are we going to "give" map selection duty to a community, like we've done with Bungie Favorites.

Certain playlists will not be open for submissions. MLG and Grifball, for example.

Geometry interlocking is fine. However, if the Z-fighting looks bad (that is, when you've got two pieces of geometry overlaying each other and are "fighting" to be the part that's drawn first), or if the interlocking just looks bad in general, your map might not be accepted.

Sculptures, jumping puzzles, and gimmicks will not be considered for Matchmaking.

The flame effect used in flame grenades and the flamethrower, as well as the fuel rod projectile are complicated effects that affect performance and can cause problems on local area network as well as LAN. Neither the flame grenade or the fuel rod gun will be allowed in Matchmaking maps, and their presence will result in immediate dismissal.

I won't have time to individually write a critique for every map submitted. Submitters should not expect a personalized post in their forum by a Bungie employee to tell them why their map isn't in matchmaking.

So there we have it, no budget glitched maps, no flame grenades ect., lots of pictures, a few videos and an overall kick ass layout. Now lets get forging!

[Debo37]

Great find, Draw. How's progress on that last map of yours? The "slate" one.

[squidhands]

Hmm, very intriguing. We need to start paying better attention to some of the better MLG maps that are already not using the budget glitch. I'd love to see some of them in the mix. Is Gridlocked glitched, DtL?

[Draw the Line]

Originally Posted by squidhands

Hmm, very intriguing. We need to start paying better attention to some of the better MLG maps that are already not using the budget glitch. I'd love to see some of them in the mix. Is Gridlocked glitched, DtL?

Its glitched, but I can fix that...some aesthetics will have to go, but I can keep it under the budget if need be.

Originally Posted by Debo37

Great find, Draw. How's progress on that last map of yours? The "slate" one.

Its had a few set backs....the wonderful dangers of using a budget glitched map. Its coming along slowly....I haven't had too much free time to work on it....but I may devote my time to fixing Gridlocked to meet these playlist requirements.

[Shock Theta]

I'll be entering a map in due course... but I'd rather like to know whether interlocking and geo-merging is an acceptable glitch for their playlists. Presumably so judging by the MLG playlist, but who knows.

[SPAGETTII]

Awesome. Until now I thought the user created map playlist was a myth. Good find, if I had my Xbox I would be working away on a map right now. :[

I'll be damned If I don't see some ForgeHub material in this playlist upon release.

[Draw the Line]

Originally Posted by Shock Theta

I'll be entering a map in due course... but I'd rather like to know whether interlocking and geo-merging is an acceptable glitch for their playlists. Presumably so judging by the MLG playlist, but who knows.

I think as long as your map doesn't cause a seizure or drop frame rate it'll be fine.

[Pegasi Delta]

I saw that whole budget glitch embargo coming, but its still a shame. I can understand why they don't want to risk people's hardware though, and I guess its just a sacrifice we have to make. I don't think any of my maps would make it under the budget, but I'll have a go anyway. I'll get working on a new, unglitched map though, and it would be awesome to have my map on a playlist.

I'm interested to see what you guys come up with though, and sincerely hope that Gridlocked can be brought under budget. If this comes to fruition, it would be really cool to have a compendium thread of all FH maps that are included, not least because it would help to reiterate how awesome FH is.

[Draw the Line]

Originally Posted by Pegasi Delta

I saw that whole budget glitch embargo coming, but its still a shame.

The budget glitch actually effects the internet connection as well Its sad because a lot of good maps were built using the built using the budget glitch. The real challenge will be to make an amazing map not using the budget glitch. It's time to go old school forge, lol.

[hellclown]

crap now I have to make a map. nice find though best of luck to every body else.


hey where is this on Bnet?