Ohhhhh Nooo the console war......

[Shatakai]

I agree with all of what you said Sweeney, except for him quitting while he is ahead. He was never ahead.

[overthehodge]

Originally Posted by xX5w33ny70ddXx

Explain how I am a fanboy and how that is biased? I play my friends PS3 at his house, so I have experience with it. I am not blindly saying it sucks ( I am saying compared to other gaming consoles, it is the worse, but a great entertainment system). The main reason I am tempted by a PS3 is Little Big Planet, and Blu-Ray. I went out and bought a standalone Blu-Ray player in the end, so now all that stands is really LBP. Honestly, pull your head out of your ass and support your accusations, or gtfo.

personally i liked the last sentence.

[Fbu]

Originally Posted by Vinny

Is there any fucking hard evidence to this shit that just comes rolling off of your fucking tongue, or what?

Gettin trolled by a fanboi

[Vinny]

Originally Posted by Fbu

Gettin trolled by a fanboi

i must be getting old

i didn't even notice he was trolling

sorry fbu 4give me

[Jake Pajamas]

Xbox 360 seems to be consistent with great entertainment for a great price. They've had a solid lineup of games every year.

PS3 definitely has some good things going for it, but it's kind of up in the air as to when you'll see another great title. The only reason I would want a PS3 is little big planet.

Plus have you considered the fact your on a website that is all about Halo? You should go on gametrailers.com or something if you want to get a more balanced opinion.

[Fbu]

Wii has better games than 360

[Security77]

This might help.

Originally Posted by Truth of TX on B.net

--==ERROR Codes==--


If there is a problem with the Xbox360 the LEDs in the ring of light will flash in a particular pattern. The pattern itself leads some insight to the problem. Certain patterns will lead to numbered error codes which will provide further insight to the problem. The numbered error codes are described below their corrosponding LED code.

Please contribute if you know of new codes that are not part of this list.


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Sections 1, 2, 3, and 4 are flashing red
- The AV cable cannot be detected



THINGS TO TRY

Make sure that the AV cable is correctly connected to the Xbox 360 console.
Disconnect the AV cable from the Xbox 360 console, and then reconnect the AV cable to the Xbox 360 console.
If the four flashing red lights continue to flash, try wiping the metal area of the AV pack with a dry cloth. The metal area is the end that plugs into the console. Wipe the metal area thoroughly, and then try the AV Pack again.
If the AV cable is correctly connected but the four red lights are still flashing, substitute a different AV cable if you have one available.
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Sections 1, 3, and 4 are flashing red
- General Hardware Failure



Check the secondary Error Code per the instructions in the section below

THINGS TO TRY

Try restarting the console.
If restarting the console does not resolve the behavior, follow these steps:
Turn the console off.
Unplug all the power and AV cables from the console.
Unplug the power cord from the wall socket.
Firmly reconnect all the cables.
Turn on the console.
If these steps do not resolve the behavior, turn the console off, remove the hard drive, and then turn on the console. If the 3x Red LED error light is no longer displayed, turn the console off, re-attach the hard drive, and then turn on the console.
Also examine the lights on the power supply. When you turn on the console, the power supply light should illuminate green even if the three lights on the RoL flash red.


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Sections 1, and 3 are flashing red
- Overheating



THINGS TO TRY
Let the Xbox 360 console cool.
Note You may have to wait several hours for the console to cool enough. Do not turn on the console when the console is hot.
Verify that the console has sufficient ventilation and that the fan is operating. For more information about ventilation, see the "More Information" section.

PREVENTION SUGGESTIONS
To try to prevent this problem, use the following precautions:

Do not block any ventilation openings on the Xbox 360 console.
Do not put the Xbox 360 console on a bed, on a sofa, or on any other soft surface that may block ventilation openings.
Do not put the Xbox 360 console in a confined space, such as a bookcase, a rack, or a stereo cabinet, unless the space is well-ventilated.
Do not put the Xbox 360 console near any heat source, such as a radiator, a heat register, a stove, or an amplifier.

DO NOT EVER PUT YOUR CONSOLE IN THE FREEZER OR OUT IN COLD WEATHER
Some people think that doing this might help "fix" an overheating console, in fact doing so could cause even bigger problems. Electronic devices like your console are made to function at and around room temperature, extreme cold temperatures can often cause just as many problems as extreme warm temperatures (such as overheating). Also if the console is located in a dramatically cold area while running, the difference in temperature between the hot console and cold air can create condensation which in turn will short out your console making the situation far worse. Condensation will happen more quickly if your console is overheating due to the greater difference in temperature. In short... DON'T DO IT.


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Section 4 is flashing red
- Hardware Failure



The Specific Type of hardware failure can be determined by the error code displayed on the screen.
If the screen is blank or you would like additional information follow the instructions for determining the secondary error code in the section below

E64: Graphics chip error

E65: DVD Drive Error.... DVD Timeout, Wrong firmware, dvd is without f/w chip, etc.

E67: Hard Drive Error... It could be a problem with the Hard Drive itself or a problem with the internal connection to the hard drive, Try removing the hard drive and playing without it

E68: Hard Drive Error... It could be a problem with the Hard Drive itself or a problem with the internal connection to the hard drive, Try removing the hard drive and playing without it, This can also be caused by a Hard Drive Eprom Error.

E69: Hard Drive Error... It could be a problem with the Hard Drive itself or a problem with the internal connection to the hard drive, Try removing the hard drive and playing without it

E71: Possibly a dashboard update error, Check below in the "Console Reset Codes" for instructions. If that does not work there is no other solution and the console must be sent back to MS for repair.

E73: Problem with the ethernet port

E74: AV cable error... There is a problem with the AV cable, try using a different AV cable. (could also be a problem with the encoder chip)

E76:The E76 error deals with the NYKO intercooler, where the Hardware is not getting enough power to supply the system.

E79: Hard Drive Error... It could be a problem with the Hard Drive itself or a problem with the internal connection to the hard drive, Try removing the hard drive and playing without it


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--==SECONDARY ERROR CODES==-

The specific type of hardware failure can be determined by a "hidden" error code

Turn the xbox 360 on, and wait till the 3 red lights are flashing.
Press and hold the sync up button (the small white one), while holding that button press the eject button.
The LEDs will now blink the first number in the code (as described below).
Release the eject button and press it again.
The LEDs will now blink the second number of the code.
Release the eject button and press it again.
The LEDs will now blink the third number of the code.
Release the eject button and press it again.
The LEDs will now blink the forth number of the code.
Release the eject button and press it again.
The LEDs will go back to the 3 red flashing lights.

You should be able to determine the difference between the 3 flashing lights and the error code lights by the rate in which they flash.

Here is how you interpret the LEDs to get the code number:

All four lights flashing - 0
One light flashing - 1
Two Lights flashing - 2
Three lights flashing - 3

0001 power supply problem
0002 power supply problem
0003 Power problem could be the PSU could be the GPU/CPU, somehow the console isn't getting clean power from the power supply.

0010 over heating
0011 over heating
0012 over heating
0013 over heating
...
0020 X-clamp overheating issue. (The X-clamp begins to slowly bend in a concave fashion due to overheating)
0021 (not yet known)
0022 GPU Error / GPU Overheating
...
0101 (not yet known)
0102 unknown error - literally means the console does not know what is wrong. Possibly a short or cold solder joint somewhere (2 reports of people repairing this, one was removing moisture build up inside the console, the other used a hot-air rework to reflow the BGA Ram chips)
...
0110 Memory Error / Memory Overheating
...
1003 Hard Drive Error... It could be a problem with the Hard Drive itself or a problem with the internal connection to the hard drive, Try removing the hard drive and playing without it
...
1010 Hard Drive Error, Can be caused buy a currupt or missing Eprom.
...
1013 Possibly a dashboard update error
...
1020 (not yet known)
...
1022 AV cable error... There is a problem with the AV cable, try using a different AV cable. (could also be a problem with the encoder chip)
...
1030 This error deals with the Ethernet port's controller chip, a dead chip may not cause the error but removing the Ethernet controller chip does, it may also be caused by other Ethernet related problems



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--==Sending in your Console for Repair==--

If none of the above suggestions work, contact MS customer support get get a support ticket started. If your console is still under warranty DO NOT attempt to open it and fix it yourself. MS will fix it promptly and for free and if you open it you loose the free support.

Check the documentation that came with your Xbox 360 for contact information.

In the US Customer Support can be reached at 1-800-4-MY-XBOX (1-800-469-9269)


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Source[/B]: Team Xbox

[EpicFishFingers]

Originally Posted by Draw the Line

The Wii has sold more than twice as many units as Xbox 360. PS3 has sold a significant less amount of systems than Xbox 360... mainly because of its high entry price.

So as far as units sold goes:

Wii > 360 > PS3


Whats sad is that PS2 is selling about as quickly as PS3.... hahaha

At one point the PS2 was selling more than the PS3, and that was like 4 months after release. That's probably mainly caused by China's grey market selling 360s and PS2s.

[STEClash96]

Originally Posted by xX5w33ny70ddXx

Explain how I am a fanboy and how that is biased? I play my friends PS3 at his house, so I have experience with it. I am not blindly saying it sucks ( I am saying compared to other gaming consoles, it is the worse, but a great entertainment system). The main reason I am tempted by a PS3 is Little Big Planet, and Blu-Ray. I went out and bought a standalone Blu-Ray player in the end, so now all that stands is really LBP. Honestly, pull your head out of your ass and support your accusations, or gtfo.

I have to say Sweeny, that post really stood out to me. My friend has a PS3 too, okay? I've played Resistance 2 on it and all I can say is that the graphics are'nt much different from the Xbox 360's. Finding Fate, you are a person who has no life. Just because your Xbox is gone for a while does not mean you have to make a thread about selling it.

You are obviously trying to point out that the PS3 is better than the Xbox 360, correct? The PS3's success is now coming to an end, the Wii and Xbox 360 are doing better business that the PS3 right now at the moment. I think you should see this thread that was made a week ago by Reynbow.

Why the Wii and Xbox are killing Sony's PS3


Posted by Dave Rosenberg


Today's Wall Street Journal has an interesting piece illustrating why the PS3 is floundering in the contest with Nintendo's Wii and Microsoft's Xbox 360. PS3 sales are on the decline while the competition is rising at a dramatic rate.

So, what are some of the main issues with the PS3?

It's overpriced
Microsoft dropped prices on the Xbox 360 to gain market share, and it worked. Sony is intent on becoming profitable (the right motive) but is doing so at the sake of building momentum. A console that starts at $400 (with only one controller and usually zero games) puts you over $500 before it's much fun.

According to the WSJ article, "U.S. sales of the PS3 fell 19 percent last month from a year earlier, while sales doubled for the Wii console and rose 8 percent for the Xbox 360, according to research firm NPD Group. Analysts say they expect PS3 sales for this month to be flat or lower than last year, while sales for its rivals are likely to rise."

Lack of exclusive games
It's gotten much harder to find compelling games that are only available on PS3, a strategy that has been very successful in the past.

Sony also is suffering from a lack of attractive titles that are exclusive to the PS3. Microsoft has hit the jackpot with two action-adventure game franchises, Halo and Gears of War, which are available only on the Xbox 360. Most of Nintendo's top games are made in-house and are playable only on the Wii. Minimal modern touches (i.e. social features)

The Wii makes your goofy little Mii character come alive by connecting consoles online. Xbox Live has a community and marketplace. Playstation Home is compelling but empty, which should even out over time. But, the competition is so far ahead, Sony needed to do something much bigger and better.

Personally, I thought the social stuff was a little stupid until my nephew destroyed me in Wii bowling while playing 3,000 miles away. Now I get it.

It's being significantly out-marketed by the competition
Generally, games drive the marketing for consoles, but the Wii and Xbox have both built very strong brand awareness around the products themselves. The games are the accessories to the Wii lifestyle, and Microsoft makes the Xbox the center of your interactive gaming lifestyle. From the consumer perspective, the PS3 is a good gaming console, but not a brand that users feel a huge loyalty to or affinity for.

The user experience is somewhat burdensome
The games themselves look and feel good, but the experience of launching a game and getting up and running takes way too long (I feel this way about most consoles), to the point where many users I spoke with get so annoyed that they curse the machine. For the record, the cause may rest with the game developers, but the perception is that the console is the barrier.

Don't forget the Internet
A bigger threat looms for all console makers, and that's the fact that people spend way more time online then ever before and that browser-based casual games are not feeding console sales, but instead pushing consumers to stay on their PCs.

.source site here

This was all on Reynbows post. The link is back up top. Even though Finding Fate's not here anymore, there's just some proof why the PS3 is a bad console. So Finding Fate, you can just STFU and GTFO, like what Sweeny said. ;)