Ohhhhh Nooo the console war......

[Shatakai]

I just would like to say that your argument on how the 360 and Wii are dead, is complete idiocy. The PS3 hasn't sold even remotely close the 360 and Wii sales. Most months the 360 will double or even triple PS3 sales, while the Wii can sometimes sell above the PS3 nearly 10 fold! And your main reason for your argument is Blu-ray?

Why would Microsoft and Nintendo simply cut off production because the PS3 has slightly better graphics. Obviously, better graphics is not what the world wants, it wants innovation, which is why the Wii is so popular. My speculation is that whenever Microsoft comes out with their newest system, say in 2-3 years or so, it will probably include Blu-ray. However, even if it doesn't it sure as hell will not be "dead".

[Draw the Line]

Originally Posted by Juggernaut448

and from what I remember, 360 won with the Wii in last.

If we're talking about sales...then you are completely incorrect.

The Wii has sold more than twice as many units as Xbox 360. PS3 has sold a significant less amount of systems than Xbox 360... mainly because of its high entry price.

So as far as units sold goes:

Wii > 360 > PS3

The top-selling game consoles for November 2008, according to the NPD:

• 1. Wii -- 2.04 million
• 2. Nintendo DS -- 1.56 million
• 3. Xbox 360 -- 836,000
• 4. PSP -- 421,000
• 5. PlayStation 3 -- 378,000
• 6. PlayStation 2 -- 206,000

Whats sad is that PS2 is selling about as quickly as PS3.... hahaha

[X5]

I think he was going after best gaming console. The Wii targeted casual gamers, with games such as Wii Sports and Wii Fit. It's basically become the new "family fun night" experience, replacing Uno and Life, etc. The PS3 lost many of its exclusives, such as RE and Final Fantasy, and few games stand out for the PS that aren't multiplatform. So I would have to give that win to 360 as well, but it is far from a true hardcore gaming console. When it comes to modern day gaming, the PC still dominates, but people play PS2, Nintendo 64, and other gaming sytsems still.

[Shatakai]

The PC is the best for modern day gaming, but it is definitely not the most popular. Many people know so little about computers that they aren't aware of things needed to run great games like graphic and sound cards, RAM, and processors.

[Finding Fate]

Originally Posted by Shatakai

I just would like to say that your argument on how the 360 and Wii are dead, is complete idiocy. The PS3 hasn't sold even remotely close the 360 and Wii sales. Most months the 360 will double or even triple PS3 sales, while the Wii can sometimes sell above the PS3 nearly 10 fold! And your main reason for your argument is Blu-ray?

Why would Microsoft and Nintendo simply cut off production because the PS3 has slightly better graphics. Obviously, better graphics is not what the world wants, it wants innovation, which is why the Wii is so popular. My speculation is that whenever Microsoft comes out with their newest system, say in 2-3 years or so, it will probably include Blu-ray. However, even if it doesn't it sure as hell will not be "dead".

Im not saying there dead, re-read..... I said next gen they might as well be if the PS4 or w/e will have very long games with many options, and much much better graphics. ( once those damn developers learn how to use the technology, lol) I don't believe it will. why would sony give them the right to use blueray????? They won't thats like handing your enemy a gun and saying shoot me.... Plus the next GTA will not be on Xbox cause it doesn't have blueray.... SO yeah you need it...

[Draw the Line]

Originally Posted by Finding Fate

Im not saying there dead, re-read..... I said next gen they might as well be if the PS4 or w/e will have very long games with many options, and much much better graphics. ( once those damn developers learn how to use the technology, lol) I don't believe it will. why would sony give them the right to use blueray????? They won't thats like handing your enemy a gun and saying shoot me.... Plus the next GTA will not be on Xbox cause it doesn't have blueray.... SO yeah you need it...

Microsoft will pay what everyone else does to use the technology. Sony won't stop them because either way they get money, which is always the bottom line. If anything, it guarantees their success because even if their next system fails to Microsoft's, they still make money. Its a win, win situation.

[Linubidix]

will. why would sony give them the right to use blueray?????

WTF, you can't own Blu Ray.

[Draw the Line]

Originally Posted by Linubidix

WTF, you can't own Blu Ray.

Sony does own the rights to the technology. And they're going to need it with all the money they're losing on the PS3.

The Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA) is the industry consortium that develops and licenses Blu-ray Disc technology and is responsible for establishing format standards and promoting business opportunities for Blu-ray Disc. The BDA is divided into three levels of membership: the Board of Directors, the Contributors, and the General Members.[1]
The "Blu-ray Disc Founder group" was started in May 2002 by nine leading electronic companies: Sony, Matsushita, Pioneer, Philips, Thomson, LG Electronics, Hitachi, Sharp, and Samsung. Spearheaded by Sony Corporation, on February 19, 2002 the companies announced[2] that they were the "Founders" of the Blu-ray Disc and later changed their name to the "Blu-ray Disc Association" on May 18, 2004 to allow more companies to join their development. Some examples of companies that signed in include Apple, TDK, Dell, Hewlett Packard, The Walt Disney Company, Warner Bros. and Universal Music Group. As of December 2007, there are more than 250 members and supporters of the Association.

[X5]

Originally Posted by Finding Fate

Im not saying there dead, re-read..... I said next gen they might as well be if the PS4 or w/e will have very long games with many options, and much much better graphics. ( once those damn developers learn how to use the technology, lol) I don't believe it will. why would sony give them the right to use blueray????? They won't thats like handing your enemy a gun and saying shoot me.... Plus the next GTA will not be on Xbox cause it doesn't have blueray.... SO yeah you need it...

Okay, I want to point several things out to you here. First off, you say that Wii and Xbox better start using Blu-Ray if they wish to keep up. Then, you said that Microsoft isn't allowed to use Blu-Ray, because Sony will never let them. So you just contradicted yourself.

Second, you say that games on the PS4 will be longer, with more options, and better graphics. I am sorry, but I thought that the PS3 was the topic of discussion here? No matter, gives me an excuse to point this out. If the PS3 is so great, why are most all PS supporters looking toward it's successor to prove why PS3 is superior? This simple truth truly detracts from your argument.

On the matter about longer, options, and better graphics, I need to say this and make it clear. THAT DOES NOT MAKE A GOOD GAME! Yes, I used all caps, because most PS3 Fanboys ( I am not calling you one) argue that PS is better because of graphics. First off, I can never tell the difference, except for a few PS exclusives. Second, did N64 have good graphics? Did NES, Sega, any oldschool consoles have good graphics. Back then I guess, but by todays standards their graphics are crap. Yet they still have amazing games. Speaking of which, look at Valve games. Do they have great graphics? No, they are decent, but all of their games are awesome. Why? Because they focus on the number one thing about a video game, good game play. Graphics are a plus, but people seriously need to stop judging a "book by its cover". Oh, as for more options, what is that supposed to mean? More control settings, or more ways to make your game character look unique? More options = complexity, which is un-needed. As for length? The only games that should be long are RPG's and those of that nature. Halo, Gears, Resistance, non of those games should have long campaigns, because it gets boring and repetetive over time, and you aren't getting such games for length, you are really getting them for multiplayer and replay. I can guaruntee you, if a game has a very long campaign, after beating it once, you probably won't want to do it again.

Also, what is this about GTA5 being PS only? I have not seen any mention of this, but if you have a reliable source to link me to, I would love to see it. But I doubt it, since your reason makes no sense. "Xbox doesn't have blu-ray, so GTA which will be put on Blu-Ray for PS cannot be played on xbox." Well, in simple terms like that, no shit. Take any PS3 game and stick it in your xbox and see what happens. I wouldn't be surprised if this is the reason you got a "red light". Anyway, multiplatform games are written to different disks for different consoles. COD 4 on PS3 is on a blu-ray formatted disk, while the COD 4 on Xbox 360 is formatted to a different disk. So of course you won't play GTA 5 on Blu-Ray disk on a 360, you would get GTA 5 for 360. Also, it is note worthy to notice that Rockstar and Take-Two are not idiots, and while looking at PS3 sales, will not make a widely popular game exclusive for the worst selling system.

There is probably more in that single post I can nail you for, but I won't. Honestly, you didn't make this thread for advice, and I should have assumed such when I saw the title "Oh No, the console wars", which is clearly egging on a fanboy fight. Honestly, stop this now, while your ahead, your making people like me look like PS3 hating pricks, because you are just so close minded when trying to provide counter arguments. We provided you with our opinion, which is to keep your Xbox after it gets repaired. But you can't seem to take that as an answer, and just want us to justify your ignorance. Well it isn't happening, so if you love your PS3 soooo much that you have to trick users into getting into a console war, then go right ahead, and get a fucking PlayStation 3.

[Vinny]

Originally Posted by Finding Fate

lus the next GTA will not be on Xbox cause it doesn't have blueray.... SO yeah you need it...

Is there any fucking hard evidence to this shit that just comes rolling off of your fucking tongue, or what?