Sandbox Blackened

[superduper66]

Originally Posted by oh knarly

Your thoughts are justified, your right that I'm speculating. However, its your job to try and peruade people to download your map and play on it. I stated that it lacks any distinguishing features which is the reason I'm not going to download it, thats constructive advice in my opinion. I never made any references to the gameplay and flow, I'm perfectly aware I haven't played on the map and therefore can't make any accurate criticism of the gameplay.

Your entitled to your opinion of course but I stand by my comment and I don't think it worthless. Good luck in future.

Doesn't seem like good critisism to me. Your comment says nothing helpful, or anything that could try and make it better. Constructive critisism should do just that. It is fine if you don't like the map, but if you are going to leave feedback to the map maker, it would be better if you left some decent advice.

[ONeill117]

Originally Posted by oh knarly

Your thoughts are justified, your right that I'm speculating. However, its your job to try and peruade people to download your map and play on it. I stated that it lacks any distinguishing features which is the reason I'm not going to download it, thats constructive advice in my opinion. I never made any references to the gameplay and flow, I'm perfectly aware I haven't played on the map and therefore can't make any accurate criticism of the gameplay.

Your entitled to your opinion of course but I stand by my comment and I don't think it worthless. Good luck in future.

Knarly=win
cool and collected, I like it.

I also agree with him in EVERY respect. Telling people their comments are worthless isn't gonna make people play your maps. What your saying is that we should DL every single map on here, play it with loads of friends on loads of gametypes, that get back to everyone, and if they edit it, we start all over again. You, my friend, are wrong.
The WHOLE POINT of you writing your little post is to give us as good an idea as possible as to how gameplay and flow is on your map, there should be plenty of pictures to show us the forging skills and map design and, from this, we know from experience what will work and what won't. So we tell you, and if we think the map has potential we DL and maybe edit our comments accordingly. This map wasn't Knarly's style, so he didn't DL and you get stupid about it.
IMO this map looks ok but incredibly unoriginal and lucklustre. I was thinking of downloading but your attitude made me decide that I don't want to play on any of your maps, ever.
I 'speculate' all your future maps will be equally boring. Sorry

Originally Posted by superduper66

Doesn't seem like good critisism to me. Your comment says nothing helpful, or anything that could try and make it better. Constructive critisism should do just that. It is fine if you don't like the map, but if you are going to leave feedback to the map maker, it would be better if you left some decent advice.

it is constructive as he's explained the reason he's not DLing so if the maker wants he can edit his post and tailor it to suit a wider audience, which will get him more downloads and comments.
IMO thats very constructive

[luckeas]

Originally Posted by ONeill117

Knarly=win
cool and collected, I like it.

I also agree with him in EVERY respect. Telling people their comments are worthless isn't gonna make people play your maps. What your saying is that we should DL every single map on here, play it with loads of friends on loads of gametypes, that get back to everyone, and if they edit it, we start all over again. You, my friend, are wrong.
The WHOLE POINT of you writing your little post is to give us as good an idea as possible as to how gameplay and flow is on your map, there should be plenty of pictures to show us the forging skills and map design and, from this, we know from experience what will work and what won't. So we tell you, and if we think the map has potential we DL and maybe edit our comments accordingly. This map wasn't Knarly's style, so he didn't DL and you get stupid about it.
IMO this map looks ok but incredibly unoriginal and lucklustre. I was thinking of downloading but your attitude made me decide that I don't want to play on any of your maps, ever.
I 'speculate' all your future maps will be equally boring. Sorry



it is constructive as he's explained the reason he's not DLing so if the maker wants he can edit his post and tailor it to suit a wider audience, which will get him more downloads and comments.
IMO thats very constructive

First of all what I'm saying is almost just that. Download every map, give it a forge-through, and talk about what you liked, disliked, what you thought about weapons/equipment placement, spawns, and the actual geometry of the map. To say you have to play it with a full party is a bit ridiculous, enough to show that you're attempting to make fun of my original post.

Listen up, I don't post maps to please people, nor to get my download count up. I post them so actual people who have a skill in understanding what makes and creates good gameplay post about it. Regardless of how it looks, or even how the post looks, and those people give feedback on the actual map, and change things that they would change if it were actually their map.

I'm actually a bit amazed how ignorant your post is and would therefore take your actual feedback with a very large, oversized grain of salt. I would take it nonetheless, but only because I consider all feedback regarding the actual map.

To be ignorant of one's ignorance is the malady of the ignorant. I don't suppose you'll catch that though.

Originally Posted by oh knarly

Your thoughts are justified, your right that I'm speculating. However, its your job to try and peruade people to download your map and play on it. I stated that it lacks any distinguishing features which is the reason I'm not going to download it, thats constructive advice in my opinion. I never made any references to the gameplay and flow, I'm perfectly aware I haven't played on the map and therefore can't make any accurate criticism of the gameplay.

Your entitled to your opinion of course but I stand by my comment and I don't think it worthless. Good luck in future.

Yeah I see what your saying now, and that makes sense, I tend to not create single distinguishing pieces of work, but build it directly in the original geometry of the map.

I only said your post was "worthless" because I was assuming your were reflecting your thoughts about more than just how you thought there was no originality and therefore saying how there is not unique and fun gameplay, when on the contrary there is.

I would say though that before you write off a map you should at least give it a look through. Too many times have I seen pictures and thought it would be a good map before I made my final judgements about it being bad or simply just an okay map. That works both ways though, and I tend to download most maps now and just weed my way through them, because even bad map usually have something that can be good about them, see what I'm saying?

[luckeas]

Here is the latest version of Blackened v2.

Well it looks like I have another update to this map, this could very well be my last, we'll see though.

With this update I was able to free up some resources by "Ghost Merging" and was able to redesign the "courtyard" area of the map.

I was also able to change the "top middle" by giving that a structure redesign, only slightly though.

A few spawns as well as BR placement has shifted too, as well as some other weapons and their timers.


I would love feedback on how you guys think it plays and what maybe could be tweaked.

Pictures of Version 2