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Originally Posted by The Official Y35
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Aargh, markiss, why didn't you tell me you were going to post this?
I would have given you the full, revised, pretty version. lol
Whatever. Just glad it's out there now.
As you guys can probably tell, we each wrote our part, then put it all in one big wall-o-text. That's why it may seem kinda weird, and discontinued at parts. lul.
But yes, I think that clears everything for me. I've got a chunk of my text in there, and I think everything I wanted to say is in there.
eh...what the heck, I'll post the edited version...:
oh, and I removed your stuff sticky from there, cause you said you didn't want to be a part of this...
I know we all hate rants, but this is one worth reading. I’m sure you’ve been thinking about this too.
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Over the past few months much has changed here at Forgehub, The past is the past, but what to come has a lot in store.
I was looking over the "Members Rank" thread and I saw a few names I wasn't so sure about, I checked in and saw a few of them haven’t been online is a while. I know this could be from many reasons but in my opinion, and the opinion of others some type of action needs to be taken care of. On Forgehub there are well over 20,000 members, 2,000 of them being active most of the time. Now, 20,000 members do need a lot of maintenance and the need for new moderators and staff is always at hand.
The problem is where they have been coming from. Most recently it has been drawn to my attention that some of the most active members are being overlooked for those who seem to spend more time sucking up to the *colored* members on Xbox Live.
In my opinion Xbox Live is Xbox Live, and Forgehub is Forgehub, they are two completely different things.
Just because a members is friends with the staff on Xbox doesn’t automatically mean he should be classified as a great poster on Forgehub and be promoted. You need to look deeper, and find out some other things before just anyone is promoted.
For a few examples I have ventured into the “Members Rank” thread in search of some Loyals - Administrators I do not feel are pulling their weight. Right at the beginning we see a Loyal by the name of BKBillsfan. Now I know he may have been a very active and helpful member a while back, but his lack of activity has really made him stand out. Even take a look at what some member wrote on his page.
“Last Activity: 08-19-2008...
Hmm... Does anyone get the hint he isn’t loyal?” iShedo says.
Some other members that seem to stand apart are
*Grimz13
*Poztar
And possible
*Vorpal Saint.
*Gravedigger5454
*Running Chron
*T3chnomonkey
And you say this is just a cry because I haven’t received loyal, I disagree. Its happening all around, and Forgehub is changing, mostly for the better, but some for the worse. Many members agree with what I am saying here, some are too scared to take a stand for fear of getting banned.
I am hoping that my popularity over the Forgehub community will tell you something, I have almost 2000 posts and in my opinion I know what am I talking about. I hope to get a positive response but if it results in a warning or even a ban I am sorry, but it needed to be said.
As Furious said himself “A promotion not based on post count? I love it! Finally there is an actual reward for generally being awesome.” As I see it, its not post count at all.
Its how much time you spend with the *Colored* members.
That’s all I have to say, this message is going to a select people, mainly those Higher up in the community so there won’t be any conflicts.
I felt this needed to be said before some major changed effect us, If you wish to gain the map database and the Farcryhub, you must have your members trust and support for it to all work out in the end.
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So what can we make up of all of this? How can we fix these problems?
Well, for one, we need to separate better Live from ForgeHub, or as a matter of fact, even Skype from ForgeHub. A member should get rewarded, or perhaps promoted on how the person acts at ForgeHub. How active the member is, how he posts,
what he has contributed to the community, that’s not just maps, because honestly about 30% of ForgeHub doesn’t make maps. Including me.Maybe they contributed something like a thread, or a debate, or maybe they were offering services, or maybe they made spectacular blogs (no one right now), maybe it was a competition, or, who would have guessed, maybe they’re just active, and helpful, and have been here religiously since the day they joined. How are you supposed to know who these people are? They’re everywhere. They might not be the person that goes on every Customer Service thread and tries to help people out. It might be someone that helps members undercover. Maybe through PMs or profile messages. Tell your friends about these people, make a remark, let others know they’ve been helping you.
Perhaps a thread should be made for this, to let other members know about these people. Not that I don’t agree with the current method of having Loyals and above members pick who should be promoted, or whatever, but it’s been proven that many of these are either doing mod things, or just are not even there. Many of the loyals aren’t as active as they used to, so tend to let these above average members slip by, and never see them in action. Maybe that’s why when they play with people on Live, they end up becoming friends with them, and through their conversations, ‘’learn’’ about them, fully biased. All I ask is a little more activeness coming from our superiors. Isn’t that the kind of role you want to be setting? I understand and completely agree with the Retired members, but keeping a title that perhaps would be more deserved with someone else isn’t completely right. Now, I’m not attacking anyone in particular right now, but I’m just pointing out how many members aren’t nearly as active as they’re supposed to be. Not just loyals. It’s far from being only loyals. Everyone.
Even you, ‘’regular user’’ have a role here. Post. Be active. I’m not asking for you to spam up the boards, but be active, post, go on different boards, check out some videos, visit the G&A section (although you might not return alive), welcome a member with a personal message, check out someone’s map, review it, play it, take a look at some screenshots. ForgeHub is miles from being a map, forum only board. ForgeHub has evolved, and from the minute I joined, it was already bigger than ‘’just maps’’. You don’t need to make a map. You don’t need to know how to forge well.
Just be involved. Constantly prove to us you still deserve whatever rank you are.
This is more complex than just a rant. This is a plead. I plead you, don’t
let ForgeHub die. Keep it alive. When it seems that ForgeHub is the closest to fading away again, that’s when you have to stay strong. It’s like what they say about love. It’s easy to love someone when everything is going fine, the bread is on the table, you have what you need, and life is good. But it’s more important to love someone when they’re going through the harsh times. That’s when they need loving the most. Or in Forgehub’s case, that’s when it needs you to be active the most. Right now. Because if you don’t, he won’t, they won’t, and soon, no one will be there anymore.
“We seriously need more active powers. It's like having an army with dead soldiers. Sure, they have guns, but they don't do anything.” Says Norlinsky
“Well, there definitely has to be changes, I never liked the large group of Staff members, I have always believed that a small group of dedicated people can get the job done. I think the Guardians should have been implemented a long time ago, and moderators should be ousted. Guardians only stay if you keep up your job. If you don't your gone, back to Loyal or whatever. Winning a gold medal in the Olympics means you’re the best, but in a matter of time someone will come around and claim your title” Says TXGhost.
Thank you
The Official Y35
Playahata27
E93
And others not listed.